get this economy going is to get some jobs out there for some people and that's in infrastructure, education, job restraining. we've got to get people back to work. then, when they've got the money, they can go out and start buying things and the business community will respond by hiring more people. that's the stimulus that we need. we know that the last stimulus program worked. i don't care what the republicans say. the facts are there. the last stimulus worked. what we need now is to boost that. we need more spending right now. we need more spending right now to put people to work in the short term. you do that and you'll get the economy going again. >> when you look at where we have had like natural disasters, like hurricane sandy in the northeast and other things that have shown the need to rebuild the infrastructure -- i mean, when a hurricane can close down the biggest city in the country for a week and the new jersey coast, we're not talking about handouts here. we need to rebuild tunnels and bridges and highways and roadways. you would think that would be above partisan bickering. >